Comments on: Big 12 Confidential (Week 6) http://www.bracketography.com/big-12-confidential-week-6/ Just another teamrankings Sites site Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:44:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Dex http://www.bracketography.com/big-12-confidential-week-6/#comment-342 Dex Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:18:17 +0000 http://www.bracketography.com/features/big-12-confidential-week-6/#comment-342 @ Mark, NC didn't lose to Clemson at home or on the road. They lost to Maryland at home, is that what you're thinking? @ Mark, NC didn’t lose to Clemson at home or on the road. They lost to Maryland at home, is that what you’re thinking?

]]> By: Mark http://www.bracketography.com/big-12-confidential-week-6/#comment-341 Mark Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:50:28 +0000 http://www.bracketography.com/features/big-12-confidential-week-6/#comment-341 "I understand the frustration about Texas, however, you need to understand that Kansas started the season, 20-0. They were only one of two teams in the country with an unblemished record." True, however that had more to do with their weak schedule than anything else. What happened when KU finally played good teams? So far they are 0-2 against the only ranked teams they've played. I thought the selection committee rewarded tough scheduling? Kansas would easily have at least 4 losses if they played the schedule Texas has. You can't seriously tell me KU beats Tenn in New Jersey like Texas did.... beats UCLA at Pauley like Texas did....or beats Michigan State at their place. It remains to be seen if KU can beat A&M at their place. Kansas has a SOS at 51.... Texas has a SOS ranked # 3. "they did get beat on the road early by a Missouri team they had no business losing to, and an A&M team that made them look really bad again on the road." Mizzou had all their players available and were 11-5 when Texas played them. Mizzou was actually a solid team, although not great. Plus, it was a road game. Every team plays a stinker now and then. NC lost to a Clemson team at home they had no business losing to and almost lost to a so-so Virginia team. Duke got killed by a so-so Wake team. True, A&M made us look bad on the road. We made them look even worse at our place last night. I'm not sure you can argue road losses to Mizzou and A&M negate road and neutral site wins over UCLA and Tenn. "I’m not sure who made the comment that Texas was a bubble team" When you didn't say Texas was a "locK" I assumed you were suggesting that Texas could be a bubble team with a few more loses. Otherwise, if you thought Texas would make the tourney no matter what why wouldn't you call them a lock? "Also, the Texas game was in Austin. I can promise you Kansas would probably win a game on a neutral floor " I don't see how you can make that claim. Texas has played better on the ROAD than they have at home more times than not. Also, you have to keep in mind the only reason the game was close was because Damion James only played 2:28 of the first half. After the 1st half KU had a 4 pt lead and a 10 rebound edge. After Damion James played the entire 2nd half Texas outscored KU by 7 pts and out-rebounded them by 12 boards in the half. If James plays the whole game I think it's very safe to assume a double digit win by Texas since James had a double/double while only playing about 22 minutes "Just like the seedings that everyone spit out, my opinion that Kansas is still a better team" I just don't see it. KU - 0 wins over ranked teams Texas 5 wins over ranked teams (KU, UCLA, Tenn, A&M, St Mary's) KU - 0-1 against Top 10 teams Texas 3-0 against Top 10 teams KU strength of schedule - 51 Texas strength of schedule - 3 thanks for the give-n-take. I do appreciate your work and the site. “I understand the frustration about Texas, however, you need to understand that Kansas started the season, 20-0. They were only one of two teams in the country with an unblemished record.”

True, however that had more to do with their weak schedule than anything else. What happened when KU finally played good teams? So far they are 0-2 against the only ranked teams they’ve played. I thought the selection committee rewarded tough scheduling? Kansas would easily have at least 4 losses if they played the schedule Texas has. You can’t seriously tell me KU beats Tenn in New Jersey like Texas did…. beats UCLA at Pauley like Texas did….or beats Michigan State at their place. It remains to be seen if KU can beat A&M at their place. Kansas has a SOS at 51…. Texas has a SOS ranked # 3.

“they did get beat on the road early by a Missouri team they had no business losing to, and an A&M team that made them look really bad again on the road.”

Mizzou had all their players available and were 11-5 when Texas played them. Mizzou was actually a solid team, although not great. Plus, it was a road game. Every team plays a stinker now and then. NC lost to a Clemson team at home they had no business losing to and almost lost to a so-so Virginia team. Duke got killed by a so-so Wake team. True, A&M made us look bad on the road. We made them look even worse at our place last night. I’m not sure you can argue road losses to Mizzou and A&M negate road and neutral site wins over UCLA and Tenn.

“I’m not sure who made the comment that Texas was a bubble team”

When you didn’t say Texas was a “locK” I assumed you were suggesting that Texas could be a bubble team with a few more loses. Otherwise, if you thought Texas would make the tourney no matter what why wouldn’t you call them a lock?

“Also, the Texas game was in Austin. I can promise you Kansas would probably win a game on a neutral floor ”

I don’t see how you can make that claim. Texas has played better on the ROAD than they have at home more times than not. Also, you have to keep in mind the only reason the game was close was because Damion James only played 2:28 of the first half. After the 1st half KU had a 4 pt lead and a 10 rebound edge. After Damion James played the entire 2nd half Texas outscored KU by 7 pts and out-rebounded them by 12 boards in the half. If James plays the whole game I think it’s very safe to assume a double digit win by Texas since James had a double/double while only playing about 22 minutes

“Just like the seedings that everyone spit out, my opinion that Kansas is still a better team”

I just don’t see it.

KU – 0 wins over ranked teams
Texas 5 wins over ranked teams (KU, UCLA, Tenn, A&M, St Mary’s)

KU – 0-1 against Top 10 teams
Texas 3-0 against Top 10 teams

KU strength of schedule – 51
Texas strength of schedule – 3

thanks for the give-n-take. I do appreciate your work and the site.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.bracketography.com/big-12-confidential-week-6/#comment-340 Jonathan Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:24:03 +0000 http://www.bracketography.com/features/big-12-confidential-week-6/#comment-340 @Mark: I understand the frustration about Texas, however, you need to understand that Kansas started the season, 20-0. They were only one of two teams in the country with an unblemished record. While I will agree that Texas is playing some of the best basketball in the country, they did get beat on the road early by a Missouri team they had no business losing to, and an A&M team that made them look really bad again on the road. I'm not sure who made the comment that Texas was a bubble team, but I can promise you that they will make the tournament without question. I did say if they lost a couple more road games that they could see the committee take a look at their seed, but I didn't say they would be left out of the tournament. Also, the Texas game was in Austin. I can promise you Kansas would probably win a game on a neutral floor if the two teams met head-to-head later on (and they probably will in the big 12 championship). Just like the seedings that everyone spit out, my opinion that Kansas is still a better team is, well, just that: a matter of opinion. Thanks for the friendly banter. @Mark:
I understand the frustration about Texas, however, you need to understand that Kansas started the season, 20-0. They were only one of two teams in the country with an unblemished record. While I will agree that Texas is playing some of the best basketball in the country, they did get beat on the road early by a Missouri team they had no business losing to, and an A&M team that made them look really bad again on the road. I’m not sure who made the comment that Texas was a bubble team, but I can promise you that they will make the tournament without question. I did say if they lost a couple more road games that they could see the committee take a look at their seed, but I didn’t say they would be left out of the tournament.

Also, the Texas game was in Austin. I can promise you Kansas would probably win a game on a neutral floor if the two teams met head-to-head later on (and they probably will in the big 12 championship). Just like the seedings that everyone spit out, my opinion that Kansas is still a better team is, well, just that: a matter of opinion.

Thanks for the friendly banter.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.bracketography.com/big-12-confidential-week-6/#comment-339 Jonathan Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:16:31 +0000 http://www.bracketography.com/features/big-12-confidential-week-6/#comment-339 @John: I apologize if that comment didn't seem clear, but in all honesty, Oklahoma really does need to win the rest of their schedule and probably one conference tourney game to make the tournament. The reason I used the 05-06 Aggies as a reference is largely due to the fact that A&M found themselves in a similar situation at 3-6 that season. They were able to win seven straight before losing a close one to Texas in the second round of the big 12 tournament. The 10-6 record was nice, but I think it was the momentum they had that made the committee take notice and slot them in the tournament. Remember that A&M was STILL on the bubble that season until Selection. I agree OU is one of the toughest teams to judge based on some of their wins, but if they want to clear thing up, I would really suggest they just keep winning starting with tonight's game at Baylor. @John:
I apologize if that comment didn’t seem clear, but in all honesty, Oklahoma really does need to win the rest of their schedule and probably one conference tourney game to make the tournament. The reason I used the 05-06 Aggies as a reference is largely due to the fact that A&M found themselves in a similar situation at 3-6 that season. They were able to win seven straight before losing a close one to Texas in the second round of the big 12 tournament. The 10-6 record was nice, but I think it was the momentum they had that made the committee take notice and slot them in the tournament. Remember that A&M was STILL on the bubble that season until Selection. I agree OU is one of the toughest teams to judge based on some of their wins, but if they want to clear thing up, I would really suggest they just keep winning starting with tonight’s game at Baylor.

]]> By: Mark http://www.bracketography.com/big-12-confidential-week-6/#comment-338 Mark Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:40:12 +0000 http://www.bracketography.com/features/big-12-confidential-week-6/#comment-338 No problem, Mr. Wall. Maybe I'm just grouchy LOL. But every bracket I've seen has Texas a 2 seed and I don't see how you can go from a 2 seed to a bubble team unless Texas drops 4 more games the rest of the year and I don't see how that's possible. Also, I have no idea where this KU love-fest comes from. It's beyond me how they are ranked ahead of Texas in any poll. KU has ZERO quality wins so far over ranked opponents, whereas Texas has wins over 5 ranked teams who are tourney locks. KU's strength of schedule is 51 .... Texas is 3rd. Texas beat KU head-to-head. But KU is a 1 seed and ranked ahead of Texas??? what a joke No problem, Mr. Wall. Maybe I’m just grouchy LOL. But every bracket I’ve seen has Texas a 2 seed and I don’t see how you can go from a 2 seed to a bubble team unless Texas drops 4 more games the rest of the year and I don’t see how that’s possible.

Also, I have no idea where this KU love-fest comes from. It’s beyond me how they are ranked ahead of Texas in any poll. KU has ZERO quality wins so far over ranked opponents, whereas Texas has wins over 5 ranked teams who are tourney locks. KU’s strength of schedule is 51 …. Texas is 3rd. Texas beat KU head-to-head. But KU is a 1 seed and ranked ahead of Texas??? what a joke

]]> By: John http://www.bracketography.com/big-12-confidential-week-6/#comment-337 John Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:17:29 +0000 http://www.bracketography.com/features/big-12-confidential-week-6/#comment-337 @ Jonathan Wall. Oklahoma is to me the hardest team in the country to judge. They have terrific non-conference wins vs West Virginia, Arkansas and Gonzaga and a nice road conference win at Baylor. But they also have not beaten any of the top 4 teams in the Big 12. What helps them is that Stephen F. Austin loss doesn't look so bad with the Lumberjacks at 20-3. You said Oklahoma has to win, win, win. Do you mean win out and 1 game in the Big 12 Tournament? @ Jonathan Wall. Oklahoma is to me the hardest team in the country to judge. They have terrific non-conference wins vs West Virginia, Arkansas and Gonzaga and a nice road conference win at Baylor. But they also have not beaten any of the top 4 teams in the Big 12. What helps them is that Stephen F. Austin loss doesn’t look so bad with the Lumberjacks at 20-3. You said Oklahoma has to win, win, win. Do you mean win out and 1 game in the Big 12 Tournament?

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.bracketography.com/big-12-confidential-week-6/#comment-336 Jonathan Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:53:33 +0000 http://www.bracketography.com/features/big-12-confidential-week-6/#comment-336 Mark. Thanks for the kind words. I agree Texas is a lock now. I am the type of person that seems to be pessimistic until the end. In the next set of rankings, Texas will indeed be a lock. Mark.
Thanks for the kind words. I agree Texas is a lock now. I am the type of person that seems to be pessimistic until the end. In the next set of rankings, Texas will indeed be a lock.

]]> By: Mark http://www.bracketography.com/big-12-confidential-week-6/#comment-335 Mark Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:33:45 +0000 http://www.bracketography.com/features/big-12-confidential-week-6/#comment-335 Love the site and the service you provide. However, Texas is a lock to make the tourney and not "very good" as you suggest. Love the site and the service you provide. However, Texas is a lock to make the tourney and not “very good” as you suggest.

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