Comments on: Bracketography’s NCAA Tournament Bubble Breakdown http://www.bracketography.com/ncaa-tournament-bubble-breakdown/ Just another teamrankings Sites site Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:44:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Henry Muto http://www.bracketography.com/ncaa-tournament-bubble-breakdown/#comment-1331 Henry Muto Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:20:14 +0000 http://www.bracketography.com/?p=692#comment-1331 I think the committee sucked on placing the #2 seeds it was inexcusable to put Villanova in Duke's bracket and West Virginia in Kentucky's. What that tells me is Villanova was 6 on the S curve and WVU was 7th and that is a complete joke. They said that it did not reflect the S curve as they moved teams closer to home. Also Ohio State who I had 6th on my S curve they put with Kansas. Ohio State and WVU and Syracuse got screwed. Duke should been the 4th #1 and WVU should been in their bracket as the 1st #2. Ohio State deserved to be in a bracket not named Kansas. Terrible job on the 2 seeds by the committee. Also I hate that they keep putting the 7/10 Richmond/St. Mary's and especially 5 Butler/12 UTEP games. Put the mid majors vs Majors put 12 UTEP vs 5 Michigan State. Make Washington or Minnesota a 12 and put them vs 5 Butler. It would be very easy to make 7 Richmond vs 10 Ga Tech and 7 Okl State vs 10 St. Mary's I think the committee sucked on placing the #2 seeds it was inexcusable to put Villanova in Duke’s bracket and West Virginia in Kentucky’s. What that tells me is Villanova was 6 on the S curve and WVU was 7th and that is a complete joke. They said that it did not reflect the S curve as they moved teams closer to home. Also Ohio State who I had 6th on my S curve they put with Kansas. Ohio State and WVU and Syracuse got screwed. Duke should been the 4th #1 and WVU should been in their bracket as the 1st #2. Ohio State deserved to be in a bracket not named Kansas. Terrible job on the 2 seeds by the committee. Also I hate that they keep putting the 7/10 Richmond/St. Mary’s and especially 5 Butler/12 UTEP games. Put the mid majors vs Majors put 12 UTEP vs 5 Michigan State. Make Washington or Minnesota a 12 and put them vs 5 Butler. It would be very easy to make 7 Richmond vs 10 Ga Tech and 7 Okl State vs 10 St. Mary’s

]]> By: Henry Muto http://www.bracketography.com/ncaa-tournament-bubble-breakdown/#comment-1330 Henry Muto Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:19:56 +0000 http://www.bracketography.com/?p=692#comment-1330 I got 64 out of the 65 teams right. I missed on Florida I had Virgina Tech in their place. There was no real right "65th team" in my opinion. I pretty much was guessing between Va. Tech, Illinois, Miss State and Florida. I had them rated in this order. 64th-Va. Tech, 65th Utah State, 66th-Florida, 67th Illinois, 68th Miss State, 69th Seton Hall. So I was very close swapping 64 and 66. I got 65th right as Utah State was most likely last team in. I got 58 of the 64 teams I had right within 1 seed line or exact. The other 6 I had 2 seeds off. I got 64 out of the 65 teams right. I missed on Florida I had Virgina Tech in their place. There was no real right “65th team” in my opinion. I pretty much was guessing between Va. Tech, Illinois, Miss State and Florida. I had them rated in this order. 64th-Va. Tech, 65th Utah State, 66th-Florida, 67th Illinois, 68th Miss State, 69th Seton Hall. So I was very close swapping 64 and 66. I got 65th right as Utah State was most likely last team in. I got 58 of the 64 teams I had right within 1 seed line or exact. The other 6 I had 2 seeds off.

]]> By: longhorn90 http://www.bracketography.com/ncaa-tournament-bubble-breakdown/#comment-1329 longhorn90 Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:31:57 +0000 http://www.bracketography.com/?p=692#comment-1329 These predictions turned out to be pretty accurate. Great job of analysis. These predictions turned out to be pretty accurate. Great job of analysis.

]]> By: Ricky http://www.bracketography.com/ncaa-tournament-bubble-breakdown/#comment-1328 Ricky Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:19:07 +0000 http://www.bracketography.com/?p=692#comment-1328 My final projection: Minnesota, Louisville, Missouri, and Cal should be safely in so I think the bubble is down to 8 teams (WF, Georgia Tech, Utah St., UTEP, Mississippi St., Illinois, Florida, VT) fighting for 5 spots. Of these Georgia Tech and Wake Forest probably have the most impressive overall profiles so I’ll put them in. Utah St. and UTEP both had had winnning streaks of about 16 in a row so I’ll put them in. I know UTEP hasn’t beaten anyone good this year but winning 16 in a row in the 9th best conference is still impressive. So in my opinion it’s down to MSU, UF, Illinois, and VT going for the last spot. All of these teams have glaring weaknesses in their profiles and normally would all be out. Illinois has a weak 19-14 record. VT had a really weak schedule. UF only has one good win away from home, and Miss St. didn’t really do anything impressive until the conference tourney. In the end I predict Mississippi St. will get the final bid. Their win over Vandy in a “neutral” site (actually in Nashville i think) was better than anything UF did all season. They split the series with UF, but when they lost it was at UF. They just took a #1 seed down to the wire and they finished hotter than the other bubble teams. I think that in the end they will be in. So my S-Curve would be: Minnesota Georgia Tech Wake Forest Utah St. UTEP Cornell Siena Mississippi St. --------------- Florida Illinois Virginia Tech Rhode Island Ole Miss USF Seton Hall My final projection:

Minnesota, Louisville, Missouri, and Cal should be safely in so I think the bubble is down to 8 teams (WF, Georgia Tech, Utah St., UTEP, Mississippi St., Illinois, Florida, VT) fighting for 5 spots. Of these Georgia Tech and Wake Forest probably have the most impressive overall profiles so I’ll put them in. Utah St. and UTEP both had had winnning streaks of about 16 in a row so I’ll put them in. I know UTEP hasn’t beaten anyone good this year but winning 16 in a row in the 9th best conference is still impressive.

So in my opinion it’s down to MSU, UF, Illinois, and VT going for the last spot. All of these teams have glaring weaknesses in their profiles and normally would all be out. Illinois has a weak 19-14 record. VT had a really weak schedule. UF only has one good win away from home, and Miss St. didn’t really do anything impressive until the conference tourney. In the end I predict Mississippi St. will get the final bid. Their win over Vandy in a “neutral” site (actually in Nashville i think) was better than anything UF did all season. They split the series with UF, but when they lost it was at UF. They just took a #1 seed down to the wire and they finished hotter than the other bubble teams. I think that in the end they will be in. So my S-Curve would be:

Minnesota
Georgia Tech
Wake Forest
Utah St.
UTEP
Cornell
Siena
Mississippi St.

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Florida
Illinois
Virginia Tech
Rhode Island
Ole Miss
USF
Seton Hall

]]> By: Ricky http://www.bracketography.com/ncaa-tournament-bubble-breakdown/#comment-1327 Ricky Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:16:19 +0000 http://www.bracketography.com/?p=692#comment-1327 My final projection: Minnesota, Louisville, Missouri, and Cal should be safely in so I think the bubble is down to 8 teams (WF, Georgia Tech, Utah St., UTEP, Mississippi St., Illinois, Florida, VT) fighting for 5 spots. Of these Georgia Tech and Wake Forest probably have the most impressive overall profiles so I'll put them in. Utah St. and UTEP both had had winnning streaks of about 16 in a row so I'll put them in. I know UTEP hasn't beaten anyone good this year but winning 16 in a row in the 9th best conference is still impressive. So in my opinion it's down to MSU, UF, Illinois, and VT going for the last spot. All of these teams have glaring weaknesses in their profiles and normally would all be out. Illinois has a weak 19-14 record. VT had a really weak schedule. UF only has one good win away from home, and Miss St. didn't really do anything impressive until the conference tourney. In the end I predict Mississippi St. will get the final bid. Their win over Vandy in a "neutral" site (actually in Nashville i think) was better than anything UF did all season. They split the series with UF, but when they lost it was at UF. They just took a #1 seed down to the wire and they finished hotter than the other bubble teams. I think that in the end they will be in. So my S-Curve would be: Minnesota Georgia Tech Wake Forest Utah St. UTEP Cornell Siena Mississippi St. My final projection:

Minnesota, Louisville, Missouri, and Cal should be safely in so I think the bubble is down to 8 teams (WF, Georgia Tech, Utah St., UTEP, Mississippi St., Illinois, Florida, VT) fighting for 5 spots. Of these Georgia Tech and Wake Forest probably have the most impressive overall profiles so I’ll put them in. Utah St. and UTEP both had had winnning streaks of about 16 in a row so I’ll put them in. I know UTEP hasn’t beaten anyone good this year but winning 16 in a row in the 9th best conference is still impressive.

So in my opinion it’s down to MSU, UF, Illinois, and VT going for the last spot. All of these teams have glaring weaknesses in their profiles and normally would all be out. Illinois has a weak 19-14 record. VT had a really weak schedule. UF only has one good win away from home, and Miss St. didn’t really do anything impressive until the conference tourney. In the end I predict Mississippi St. will get the final bid. Their win over Vandy in a “neutral” site (actually in Nashville i think) was better than anything UF did all season. They split the series with UF, but when they lost it was at UF. They just took a #1 seed down to the wire and they finished hotter than the other bubble teams. I think that in the end they will be in. So my S-Curve would be:

Minnesota
Georgia Tech
Wake Forest
Utah St.
UTEP
Cornell
Siena
Mississippi St.

]]> By: warren friedman http://www.bracketography.com/ncaa-tournament-bubble-breakdown/#comment-1326 warren friedman Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:06:33 +0000 http://www.bracketography.com/?p=692#comment-1326 As usual you guys have done an excellent job. I only have 2 differences - putting Va Tech and Miss St in the final field - and leaving out Minn (I know they have several good wins - but also laid many an egg during the season) and Florida (good wins but lots of mediocre losses) As usual you guys have done an excellent job.

I only have 2 differences – putting Va Tech and Miss St in the final field – and leaving out Minn (I know they have several good wins – but also laid many an egg during the season) and Florida (good wins but lots of mediocre losses)

]]> By: Atticus Finch http://www.bracketography.com/ncaa-tournament-bubble-breakdown/#comment-1325 Atticus Finch Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:37:45 +0000 http://www.bracketography.com/?p=692#comment-1325 John, I've got no problem with anyone feeling that UF could get the nod over the competition. My issue was with calling UF a "lock". They weren't then and they aren't now. 95% chance of them being in? Not a chance. And I'm not alone. This composite shows that lots of people project UF out of the dance, for what that's worth. http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm As for UF's resume, I don't get why everyone is droning on and on about how great the FSU win at home was. It wasn't a bad win or anything, but it's not anything great. It was a home win over a 9 loss team with an RPI in the 40s thzt is probably a 9/10 in the tournament. That's your 3rd best win all season long? Whoop-di-doo. The SEC has 3 good teams, 3 pretty good teams, and 3 pretty bad teams, and 3 awful teams. UF probably has the best resume of the pretty good teams, but I just don't think that's enough. And I do think there is an argument to be made for MSU over UF based on the actual resumes of the teams. That said, I don't think MSU is UF's competition -- I don't think they are dancing either. I think UF's resume is found lacking against enough bubble teams to keep them out. Teams like Illinois, GT, and WF have more impressive wins than does UF. Yes they have their warts, but they look better to me than does UF. I would love nothing more than 4+ SEC teams in the tournament, I just don't think it's going to happen. John,

I’ve got no problem with anyone feeling that UF could get the nod over the competition. My issue was with calling UF a “lock”. They weren’t then and they aren’t now. 95% chance of them being in? Not a chance. And I’m not alone. This composite shows that lots of people project UF out of the dance, for what that’s worth.

http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm

As for UF’s resume, I don’t get why everyone is droning on and on about how great the FSU win at home was. It wasn’t a bad win or anything, but it’s not anything great. It was a home win over a 9 loss team with an RPI in the 40s thzt is probably a 9/10 in the tournament. That’s your 3rd best win all season long? Whoop-di-doo.

The SEC has 3 good teams, 3 pretty good teams, and 3 pretty bad teams, and 3 awful teams. UF probably has the best resume of the pretty good teams, but I just don’t think that’s enough. And I do think there is an argument to be made for MSU over UF based on the actual resumes of the teams.

That said, I don’t think MSU is UF’s competition — I don’t think they are dancing either. I think UF’s resume is found lacking against enough bubble teams to keep them out. Teams like Illinois, GT, and WF have more impressive wins than does UF. Yes they have their warts, but they look better to me than does UF.

I would love nothing more than 4+ SEC teams in the tournament, I just don’t think it’s going to happen.

]]> By: Ed Vera http://www.bracketography.com/ncaa-tournament-bubble-breakdown/#comment-1324 Ed Vera Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:56:16 +0000 http://www.bracketography.com/?p=692#comment-1324 To me, the tounament needs to be restructured. Why must a team who won the conference championship has to prove it by winning the tournament? To me if you win the conference, automatic bid. The conference tournament should be for those teams that want to impress the select committee. Sometimes I feel that the conference champions loss just to get rest for the tournament games. That is my personal oppinion. The proponents for the 96 tournament team, cheapens the value of the tournament. What happen to the days when only the top 32 teams when. Why does our society, has to have everyone as a winner? Thank you. To me, the tounament needs to be restructured. Why must a team who won the conference championship has to prove it by winning the tournament? To me if you win the conference, automatic bid. The conference tournament should be for those teams that want to impress the select committee. Sometimes I feel that the conference champions loss just to get rest for the tournament games. That is my personal oppinion. The proponents for the 96 tournament team, cheapens the value of the tournament. What happen to the days when only the top 32 teams when. Why does our society, has to have everyone as a winner? Thank you.

]]> By: David Leathem http://www.bracketography.com/ncaa-tournament-bubble-breakdown/#comment-1323 David Leathem Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:01:10 +0000 http://www.bracketography.com/?p=692#comment-1323 I appreciate all the attention the Big 12 Has gotten this year, and the emergence as Americas premier conference 2010. I, however do not believe Missouri will be going to the dance, their early exit in the Big 12 tourney coupled with blow out At Mizzo Arena at the hands of KU, to end their regular season makes me wonder if the selection committee will give them the nod. I think they will be NIT bound! I appreciate all the attention the Big 12 Has gotten this year, and the emergence as Americas premier conference 2010. I, however do not believe Missouri will be going to the dance, their early exit in the Big 12 tourney coupled with blow out At Mizzo Arena at the hands of KU, to end their regular season makes me wonder if the selection committee will give them the nod. I think they will be NIT bound!

]]> By: John http://www.bracketography.com/ncaa-tournament-bubble-breakdown/#comment-1322 John Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:36:52 +0000 http://www.bracketography.com/?p=692#comment-1322 Atticus, I respect your opinions, and, as a fellow SEC fan, am glad you want to see Florida in the field, as you stated before, but why is it you only talk about us getting left home? Yes, yesterday's events didn't help, but we did split with Mississippi State, and, as David stated, have a better resume than the Bulldogs Are we going to let their SEC Tournament run make us forget about their lack of quality non-conference wins? In fact, I dare anyone to say these last few teams on the bubble have better non-conference wins than Michigan State and Florida State. Finally, it's a matter of do you believe the committee when they say they don't take conference affiliatlon into account when they select, and compare at-large teams. Atticus, I respect your opinions, and, as a fellow SEC fan, am glad you want to see Florida in the field, as you stated before, but why is it you only talk about us getting left home? Yes, yesterday’s events didn’t help, but we did split with Mississippi State, and, as David stated, have a better resume than the Bulldogs Are we going to let their SEC Tournament run make us forget about their lack of quality non-conference wins? In fact, I dare anyone to say these last few teams on the bubble have better non-conference wins than Michigan State and Florida State. Finally, it’s a matter of do you believe the committee when they say they don’t take conference affiliatlon into account when they select, and compare at-large teams.

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